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Refutation of Alvin Plantinga's evolutionary argument against naturalism

Watch Veritas48's video series first: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKTj6Pq5e2Q Refutation of Alvin Plantinga's evolutionary argument against naturalism Veritas48's / Alvin Plantinga's argument: 1. If naturalism and evolution are true then the probability of our cognitive abilities to be reliable is low. 2. If the probability of our cognitive abilities to be reliable is low then the probability of any belief we arrived at using our cognitive abilities is low. 3. People who believe that N&E are true have arrived at this belief using their cognitive abilities. 4. Therefore given N&E the probability of the belief in N&E being true is low. 5. Therefore the idea that N&E are both true can be rejected. My counter argument: 1. If N&E are both true and Plantinga is right then any believe that we arrived at using our cognitive abilities can be rejected. 2. Plantinga arrived at the believe that his premises are true using his cognitive abilities. 3. Therefore if N&E are both true and Plantinga is right then according to Plantinga the belief in Plantinga's premises can be rejected. 4. Therefore Plantinga's premises can only be considered as valid if we know that the belief in N&E can be rejected. 5. Therefore by presenting his premises as true beliefs Plantinga's premises are implicitly presupposing that N&E can be rejected. 6. That N&E can be rejected is what Plantinga is trying to prove. 7. Therefore Plantinga's premises are presupposing that the conclusion is true. 8. Therefore Plantinga's argument is circular and invalid. The problem with Christian epistemology: We need to know that God exists in order to be able to have knowledge. But unless we know that we are able to have knowledge we do not know if we are able to know that God exists. Tags: Refutation Alvin Plantinga evolutionary argument against naturalism evolution atheism faith jesus god nihilism relativism agnostic atheist epistemology truth relative absolute bible circular

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